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Post by burnsy00 on May 19, 2014 14:11:48 GMT -5
Can we get a show of hands of who's staying on for another year?
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on May 19, 2014 16:52:47 GMT -5
I'll be back
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Post by molson on May 20, 2014 9:19:46 GMT -5
I assume everyone will be back.
I'd rather have a heads up of anyone who is NOT planning on returning, so I can begin hunting for a replacement sooner rather than later.
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Post by burnsy00 on May 20, 2014 15:45:05 GMT -5
I just wanted to put it out there now in May as it seems like right around draft time in June we struggle with who is in or out and it drags all summer long.
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on May 20, 2014 16:06:46 GMT -5
id say probably just leftcoast and taco are the 2 that wont be back, as they havent been on the boards since november. not sure theyve been on poolexpert though
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 20:14:27 GMT -5
I'm here still since I am in year 4 of a 90 year rebuilding plan....
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2014 8:35:20 GMT -5
I plan om returning.
Nowhere close to winning but plan on staying.
i am giving serious though to blowing up my team again. I think I have gone as far as I am going to with this roster.
anybody see anything interesting I am willing to explore options.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2014 15:42:40 GMT -5
Hi guys,
Just a few words to let you know I'm still in too. Hope we could have replacement GMs not too far this summer cause like I said last year, prospect draft in late september is not really a good thing.
Other food for thoughts...I joined another league last year, pretty different in some ways but one thing interesting is a parity draft to be held at the end of the season. Plain and simple, top teams in the standings must give a limited list of protected players, and bottom teams could pick some players inside the pool of unprotected. Middle teams stays intact. Parameters should be talked about to be sure they are suitable for our league, but before going too deep into this, I'm wondering what are you thinking of it guys? We need to face the fact that the league is way less active during the season now and we're losing 2-3 GMs in the summer for the past 3 years I think. In other words...there is not enough fun and hope to keep GMs involved.
I think that implementing a parity draft will help keeping the challenge for everyone: top teams will need to push a bit harder to stay on top middle teams will be more inclined to make some trades in the season because of a closer gap between them and top teams bottom teams will expect a smaller time frame to rebuild.
Feel free to comment on that.
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Post by mutumbo on Jun 11, 2014 12:39:37 GMT -5
My first thought about that idea (of course coming from the team who won last year) is lets look at who was active the most in the last 4 years. I imagine I made more trades than nearly everyone else combined in this league during that span. I bought low, sold high, did my homework on players I thought would be good... I'm not too inclined to start handing away my players to teams that haven't made a trade or done a single proactive thing for their team in the past 2-3 years.
That's just my 0.2 cents though. Not to say I'm 100% opposed, but doesn't sound so appealing.
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on Jun 12, 2014 7:41:10 GMT -5
I've been in a bunch of leagues in never done anything like that. IMO we just need GMs that are committed to rebuilding these teams. I had a crappy team when I came in and made it crappier in hopes of rebuilding it and feel good about where I am. I'm somewhat active during the season and will be more active of course once near the top, but for me part of my inactivity is because there's nothing for me to do on poolexpert. I can't add players or drop them or post messages or even change my roster--it's just a database. I think using a site, whether it be yahoo or espn or fantrax, that allows more interaction and allowing transactions to be done by managers rather than the commish would increase activity.
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Post by molson on Jun 12, 2014 11:27:12 GMT -5
I agree with Moonrats, and Mutumbo. Activity & research can turn around any team. Well... that and stop giving your good players to Mutumbo. Every year the bottom teams score a good prospect (assuming they don't trade away their picks). They also get first grabs at the free agents in the summer and during the season -- IF they're active -- I think this is a HUGE benefit, but goes underutilized by the bottom teams.
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Post by molson on Jun 12, 2014 11:36:11 GMT -5
I need some help finding owners for our 3 replacements... if anyone can do some hunting it would be muchly appreciated. I have a horrendous work schedule from now to the middle of July, and don't want the same thing happening this summer as last. After July it should settle down.
I am not opposed to finding a new site that allows managers to maintain their own teams, but it would likely require rule changes because no site could match our requirements exactly. It would be something I'd have to investigate during the season though, because I'd want to see it in action (aka I'd run a trial) before committing to it for next year.
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on Jun 12, 2014 12:06:59 GMT -5
why not change the rules? do we really need roster moves to take 3 days before actually hitting the lineup, and 3 weekes before injured guys can be put in rosters? i think we can make rosters more flexible.
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Post by mutumbo on Jun 12, 2014 12:33:09 GMT -5
The way the roster rules work is to prevent game counting. It doesn't take 3 weeks to put in an injured player, it's 3 weeks if you bench a player who ISN'T injured. Again, to prevent game counting. If a player is injured, he goes to the bench immediately and the player who subs in for him is active 3 days later. When the injured player is healthy again (He might have only missed 1 game) he can immediately return to the lineup. That is based off memory, but if that's incorrect I'm sure someone will correct me.
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on Jun 13, 2014 0:05:52 GMT -5
yea sorry, i did mess that up, it is in fact 3 weeks for a benched player. wasn't totally focused as i was at work.
on the other hand, when you guys say game counting, i assume you mean streaming guys in and out of the lineup to get the most total games played possible? most rotisserie leagues, and i know for a fact yahoo offers this, just allow you to set a maximum number of games played per position. thus managers can play guys whenever they want, but if they stream guys in and out all season they'll eventually hit the cap on a position and that positional spot can no longer accrue points.
this kind of setup would remove the game counting worry completely since we know that no team can go over X number of games played, would make it alot easier on molson for not having to count 3 weeks every time a move is made, and makes it easier for managers to manage their rosters since they wont be handicapped with players that are locked on the bench for 3 weeks.
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Post by MotorCity Warriors on Jun 14, 2014 10:05:54 GMT -5
I understand the game counting (streaming) issue. But if a player is injured during the season, I don't think you should have to wait three days before the replacement player is active. If you guys are considering moving away from PoolExpert to a different site and are concerned about game counting, Yahoo and CBS and I think Fantrax allow you to put restrictions on the amount of moves you can make each week. I'm in a league now on Fantrax with 16 teams and its a hugely active league. Lots of conversation and lots of trades. also has a huge player database with all the prospects.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 19:44:51 GMT -5
I'm up for that...nowhere close to competing, but you all know I'm not a fan of the waiting game to get players into the lineup. This is the only pool I've been in that does this...
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Post by burnsy00 on Aug 30, 2014 9:29:24 GMT -5
I'm still concerned that we have 6 available teams in this league and with September on the door step and rookie draft and free agency etc and the nhl season in 30 days are we ready?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 15:38:49 GMT -5
Seems not We'll have to wait and see what happens.
I haven't really heard or seen anything posted about what the plan is
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on Sept 3, 2014 11:44:20 GMT -5
guys, sorry about this. i was away for a a week and been catching up with work since. i'm going to start getting going on this. we have 7 teams and superchief hasn't been on since july, so i think it's 7 not 8. i will get rules finalized today/tomorrow and then recruit and hope to start a draft next weekend if we can get to 10 or 12 teams.
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Post by burnsy00 on Sept 12, 2014 10:35:48 GMT -5
I know that our new Commish has put alot of time and energy into this league and it is appreciated by those of use who want to see it continue. I also want to note that while it seems easier said than done to find new recruits to join the league I along with a couple of you have been in two other leagues that have folded this summer due to loss of interest and loss of GM's. We couldn't find replacements in those leagues either. I am in www.pkl08.proboards.com with a couple of you other GM's and I think we need a couple GM's there too. I think we need to set in motion an action plan of dates whereas if we don't have up to a certain # of teams to fill our league than we make a decision to re-draft the vacant teams and reformat with a new # of GM's or we disband or whatever...I have already paid for this league and the other league I mentioned but if we aren't going to be able to have a league then I would like to appropriate that moneey elsewhere before the NHL starts in 3 weeks. No hard feelings but it is proving more and more difficult to find new GM's in alot of leagues. Two shut down, one starts up etc. Thoughts?
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on Sept 12, 2014 11:00:10 GMT -5
burnsy, thanks for the input. could we combine the two?
it has been difficult to find GMs. I posted on dobberhockey and on yahoo. i don't want to post all ove rhte place and get crappy gms, so i only posted there since i think dobber will give good GMs and yahoo makes sense as that is where the league will be hosted. we've had alot of views (the number of guest visits has gone up), but i've only had one GM contact me with serious interest and then back off (didn't like having a games played limit).
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Post by burnsy00 on Sept 12, 2014 17:35:53 GMT -5
As far as I know they are looking for 1 possibly 2 GM's though the leagues are similar the level of teams will vary and I am not sure if the two leagues can be bridged together without a complete do-over....that has been done with other leagues and failed miserably. I realzie I have a negative tone regarding this but I am sure everyone can understand the dilemma we are all about to face. Almost half our league is vacant and even when we need 1 or 2 replacements its tough and now we are talking over 5 teams...
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on Sept 12, 2014 22:27:52 GMT -5
no worries i understand. outlook is honestly grimmer now that we are closing in on the beginning of the season and GMs have been hard to come by.
could you send me a link to that other league so I could take a look at it? thanks
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Post by burnsy00 on Sept 12, 2014 22:42:10 GMT -5
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on Sept 12, 2014 22:52:29 GMT -5
it would be tough. that league is at 12, and the only way to merge would be to either have an expansion draft and make that league like 16 or 18 teams, or merge them and have only 2 people join (actually maybe possible seeing as most of you are already in the other one).
i would certainly prefer to keep this league running as its own entity, but let me know what all your thoughts are on the topic of merging vs. continuation of this league, please.
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Post by MotorCity Warriors on Sept 13, 2014 9:01:24 GMT -5
merging seems impossible, too many teams, too many similar players. not enough time and a re-draft would have to happen. then you would have to speak to everyone in the other league and get them to agree. it will never work. this league is toast, sorry to say. refund my money please. As it is the other league is still waiting to replace a GM and do a draft. I appreciate all your efforts rats in trying to save the league but it seems doomed.
On a side note, I'm totally pissed at JR and Adam!!! in my opinion they totally scammed this league JR wins 3 times and adam comes in the top 3 several times and then they just bolt!!! its a bunch of bullshit and we all got taken for a ride. there, I got it out. I feel much better.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 15:32:23 GMT -5
merging seems impossible, too many teams, too many similar players. not enough time and a re-draft would have to happen. then you would have to speak to everyone in the other league and get them to agree. it will never work. this league is toast, sorry to say. refund my money please. As it is the other league is still waiting to replace a GM and do a draft. I appreciate all your efforts rats in trying to save the league but it seems doomed. On a side note, I'm totally pissed at JR and Adam!!! in my opinion they totally scammed this league JR wins 3 times and adam comes in the top 3 several times and then they just bolt!!! its a bunch of bullshit and we all got taken for a ride. there, I got it out. I feel much better..... LOL I could not agree more J. I stopped talking to Adam 3 years ago. Those guys started this league. Got a bunch of inexperienced GM's including myself and took it for a ride. I watched scam after scam trade that were so lopsided it totally threw off the balance of the league for ever. Once JR's team started getting old he bailed. Once his butt buddy JR left Adam followed suit. No doubt to start a new league elsewhere and start the scam all over again. They both knew that the guys who did stay got alot smarter and they could no longer pull the scam trades they did in the beginning. Anyway, I got no love lost for either one of them. As far as the league. I also thank the moonrats for all his effort but it looks as though things might be done here. I'll hang for a bit to see what happens but I have no plan right now to pay. Unless things change. If anybody is interested in a new league or hear anything or are looking for a GM I might be interested. I might not be long for fantasy hockey period much longer.
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Post by Little Bacon (Commissioner) on Sept 15, 2014 8:22:39 GMT -5
Guys,
I hear what both of you are saying and I agree it seems we got scammed. It really pains me to say this as I had a blast with this league even though my team never competed, but it seems the end is near for our dear league. We've received little interest for new GMs and the season is 2 weeks away.
Our final, desperation option would be to continue the league with 8 teams, either by finding one GM or just having one of us hold an extra team over for a year, until next season when we can hope to expand again. We can then continue the league, hold our draft, have a dispersal draft, and hope to expand the league back to 10-14 teams next year.
I will put this up to a vote, continue this way or discontinue, unless anyone has any other suggestions or opinions.
Best, James
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Post by burnsy00 on Sept 15, 2014 13:38:14 GMT -5
If we continue with 8 teams do we do a dispersal draft asap and then sort of do another list of free agent drops? Essentially the remaining 8 teams would have te opportunity to upgrade in a lot of areas??? And as far as the prospects that the vacant teams held would be able to be drafted in our not done yet 2014 prospect draft?
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